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Post by Negative on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:06 am

Abuser name: Fosters

Date/time: 14/06/2012 4 pm

Abuser IP:

What happened: Smurfed as baboow and played 2 rounds IN A CM (there you go)

Server where it happened: rs2






Obviously the same ip, so do your magic please

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Re: Smurfing

Post by Nath on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:18 am

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Re: Smurfing

Post by cmnndr on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:32 am

I miss the obvious part :/
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Re: Smurfing

Post by Frosty on Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:11 pm

Me too, but it's cause I never understood how IPs work.


Anyway I just wanted to hop in here to mention the wS players who played that cm did not know Baboow and that if it was Fosters, wS didn't know it.

Next time we meet Baboow on msn we'll ask him about it.
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Re: Smurfing

Post by FireBall on Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:47 pm

I would have known if someone smurfed as babeau <3.


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Re: Smurfing

Post by Negative on Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:48 pm

Frosty wrote:Me too, but it's cause I never understood how IPs work.


Anyway I just wanted to hop in here to mention the wS players who played that cm did not know Baboow and that if it was Fosters, wS didn't know it.

Next time we meet Baboow on msn we'll ask him about it.

If? Lol whats the doubt in this? You got fosters IP from the forum and you got "Baboow's" IP too.
And yea they are the same. So do the maths and you'll see that there's no if or maybe.

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Re: Smurfing

Post by FireBall on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:04 pm

Negative wrote:
Frosty wrote:Me too, but it's cause I never understood how IPs work.


Anyway I just wanted to hop in here to mention the wS players who played that cm did not know Baboow and that if it was Fosters, wS didn't know it.

Next time we meet Baboow on msn we'll ask him about it.

If? Lol whats the doubt in this? You got fosters IP from the forum and you got "Baboow's" IP too.
And yea they are the same. So do the maths and you'll see that there's no if or maybe.


Just for the record, theoretically one of 65025 different people could have been playing. What I'm saying is that if Baboow and Fosters live in the same area and/or have the same ISP then chances are they could be using the same IP class. With dynamic IPs you cannot be certain whether or not it's that same person. Many different persons can share the same IP class (like class a.b. from IP a.b.c.d). However, I assume that it wasn't the IP that got Nega's attention in the first place so I'm not dismissing what Nega is saying.

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Re: Smurfing

Post by Devil on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:15 pm

Easiest way to know is to ask Baboow himself. I don't think it was really him either
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Re: Smurfing

Post by Frosty on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:42 pm

I said "if" because I'm someone careful, that's all.

I also found weird that Baboow suddenly comes back to babo and agrees to play a cm with ppl he has never seen...

Anyway that wasn't my point, I just intended to prevent my team from guilt clown
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Re: Smurfing

Post by Anette on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:46 pm

I can say that out of the tons of ips baboow have had on forum none was ever 94.122, only fosters had that.

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Re: Smurfing

Post by Negative on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:53 pm

Anette wrote:I can say that out of the tons of ips baboow have had on forum none was ever 94.122, only fosters had that.

Merci

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Re: Smurfing

Post by cmnndr on Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:49 pm

Nega, they aren't the same. That's why I asked. And saying "I haven't seen Baboow with 94.122...." doesn't mean that he couldn't have it. They both live in Istanbul, prolly they both have same ISP. For me it isn't obvious.
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Re: Smurfing

Post by Killer on Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:30 am

It's not Baboow.
Fosters or not.
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Re: Smurfing

Post by Malin on Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:23 am

Alright. Baboow said it was him, but... As well he could say it, because he didn't want Fosters to be banned. Oh well, do what you want.
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Re: Smurfing

Post by Devil on Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:30 am

lol?
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Re: Smurfing

Post by .Fenomén. on Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:01 pm

So we could easily found out that there's no real rules here! Varlan was banned cause he played using the nick "Kai".

Some summary about Varlan's ban:

Cinc wrote:This deserved a ban? By what criteria? Kai hasn't used his nick for a pretty long. It's like banning me for smurfing as Psyduck because there was once a player named Psyduck who decided to change his nick to Pikachu.

Devil wrote:Was Kai offended by this, or no one asked? Otherwise I can't see why this would need a global ban.

Nath wrote:I believe this is harsh. Only GLOBAL banable offense in my eyes when smurfing is applied is if they smurf to be someone in a clan then play a clan match with them. And as said before, Kai = Fifty and he doesn't even use his old name anymore. Just showing some middle-ground. :]
I leave you to decide what's wrong in the rules, instead of hunting for people like... "Unnamed Babo".
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Re: Smurfing

Post by Malin on Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:47 pm

First of all, i wasn't unnamed babo, but known player.
Second, rules are not strict, but as goes for smurfing it's quite obvious that you musn't smurf as player that's in other clan and play cm under his nickname. Why do we even have clan memebers, when we can just smurf as anyone and no one would give a shit about it? Fenomén, please think sometimes and don't state obvious things. It's not helping.

Enough of Off-topic thing. Sorry about that.

So, what do we do now? Do you want investigate more in this or just let it be because we "haven't got enough evidence"?
As i posted before, Baboow said that it was him.
I'm not good in this ip thingy so i don't want to make this case worse Razz
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Re: Smurfing

Post by Devil on Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:52 pm

Why doesn't Baboow come here and clear things up?
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Re: Smurfing

Post by Cinc on Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:01 pm

Where did baboow say it was him? He wasn't online on msn in a long time, and the person called "baboow" in the game had too low english skills to be the real baboow, also I doubt baboow would ask me for a cm when he didn't have 3, which could only mean that the person calling himself "baboow" doesn't have msn or friendlist.
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Re: Smurfing

Post by Killer on Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:26 pm

Cinc wrote:Where did baboow say it was him?

He's using a fake msn.He doesn't speak french and as far as I remember he was pretty good.
The first time I saw him so during the cm,he's talking with fifty using the nick "kai" and after with leopard too.
Obviously it's not him I'm sure.
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Re: Smurfing

Post by Malin on Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:37 pm

Cinc wrote:Where did baboow say it was him?

Crapper talked with him yesterday in bv... yea.
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Re: Smurfing

Post by raven on Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:53 pm

Malin wrote:
Cinc wrote:Where did baboow say it was him?

Crapper talked with him yesterday in bv... yea.

I was also there, I can add that he did say it was him and he mentioned that he talked with the wS members on msn about it.
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Re: Smurfing

Post by Frosty on Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:50 am

This is still weird. It's so... non-baboow like.

I still haven't got the occasion to speak with him, and I could easily see whether he is or isn't baboow, I knew him well.
Same for FireBall.

Besides, if you talked in bv... Where's the proof that it's him ?
What was his IP in bv that time ?
Did the guys who talked with him in bv knew baboow enough from the past to say whether or not it was really him ?
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Re: Smurfing

Post by Devil on Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:05 am

Cmon, at this point it's pretty obvious it's not him. Why would he be in Bv but wouldn't take 2 min to come here and write "chillax dudes, it's really me. Have a kebab"
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Re: Smurfing

Post by Anette on Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:11 am

just ban him and see who comes asking for an unban, thats what I would have done Razz

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