Poll : ELO System

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Poll : ELO System

Post by Cyber on Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:00 am

Waiting for your answers
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Re: Poll : ELO System

Post by Cyber on Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:31 am

Okay a week passed and we've had 8 votes with 6 yes and 2 no.
So i can say that any ladder match will be updated with the new ELO System.

IMPORTANT LADDER'S UPDATE:
The counting system which was actually working on that ladder has been changed to an ELO one; explaining shortly this is the way it works:
The actual standing situation will be kept but since now the ratio will be calculated in that way. If you are first on the standing , any clan you're going to play you'll gain +1 point , and if you'll beat the owner of the crown you'll gain that (crown) and +1 ratio point. Okay now an example to explain it fully :

Code:
1 fx
2 NbZ [i]crown[/i]
3 Mids
4 Dj

Okay we're Dj , we win over NbZ the math expression will be 4(Dj's Rank) -2(NbZ'sRank) +1 (Point gained for the win) = 3 points and the Crown
If he wins over mids : (4-3+1)= 2 points
The most of the point Dj can gain is beatting fx which would give to him 4 points : 4-1 +1.

I think it's fully explained, if you find any error or smth wrong let me know.


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Re: Poll : ELO System

Post by fuazi on Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:46 pm

1. If fx wins dj, how many point will they gain?
if thinking as u have written: 1(fx's rank) - 4 (dj's rank) + 1 = -2. They will lose 2 points? Smile

2. after winning the crown, a team gets 1 point and 1 ratio point. Where does the ratio point go?

3. Who determines the positions - 1,2,3,4, and how many times should Dj's win to get 3,2,1 place?

4.

If you are first on the standing , any clan you're going to play you'll gain +1 point , and if you'll beat the owner of the crown you'll gain that +1 ratio point.
If i am not first in standing, the expression for me will be calculated in another way?
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Re: Poll : ELO System

Post by Cyber on Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:44 pm

fuazi wrote:1. If fx wins dj, how many point will they gain?
if thinking as u have written: 1(fx's rank) - 4 (dj's rank) + 1 = -2. They will lose 2 points? Smile

2. after winning the crown, a team gets 1 point and 1 ratio point. Where does the ratio point go?

3. Who determines the positions - 1,2,3,4, and how many times should Dj's win to get 3,2,1 place?

4.

If you are first on the standing , any clan you're going to play you'll gain +1 point , and if you'll beat the owner of the crown you'll gain that +1 ratio point.
If i am not first in standing, the expression for me will be calculated in another way?

1. Clearly written, every lower ranked clan you'll play it'll be 1 point

2. If fx beats NbZ he gains the crown and the point of the win since NbZ is lower ranked than fx it's only 1 point

3.Depends on how many points you've.

4. This isn't meant only for the 1st ranked clan it's about every team who has some other ones behind him. Like NbZ has mids and Dj behind.
Every lower ranked clan who has been beatten gives 1 point, you can be even 10th , but if there are some other clans with lower positions and you'll beat'em you're going to gain that 1 point.
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Re: Poll : ELO System

Post by fuazi on Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:55 pm

So:
1. the ratio points and simply points are the same.
2. a crown is only for fun, and there is no difference of playing for a crown or not.
Yes?

Depends on how many points you've.
how many points then have the teams at the beginning?
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Re: Poll : ELO System

Post by Cyber on Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:13 pm

fuazi wrote:So:
1. the ratio points and simply points are the same.
2. a crown is only for fun, and there is no difference of playing for a crown or not.
Yes?

Depends on how many points you've.
how many points then have the teams at the beginning?

1 Yea when we talk about ratio points or points we talking about the same.
2 It's just to bring some more competition on.
3 The ladder already began so atm we're going to keep the old score which are still points , like fx has 3 wins 1 loss = 3-1 = 2 -> Points. Since now it'll be updated with the new system.
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Re: Poll : ELO System

Post by Pushkin on Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:22 pm

guys, read my last reply in the other topic, i wrote you that i found an elo calculator, which does the job for us, so there is no need in a formula and we can use that one, and i already calculated the standing up until now (still need to add last match of fx but everything else is calculated)


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Re: Poll : ELO System

Post by Pushkin on Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:27 pm

Current standings with the ELO system:

fx 1029
Mids 1017
NbZ 1016 CROWN
DJ 969
>?< 969

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Re: Poll : ELO System

Post by cnik on Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:51 am

Ye, I don't really get why Cyb is trying to find a new formula when we have ELO.

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Re: Poll : ELO System

Post by Cyber on Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:06 am

Sorry for that, tought we were talking about the formula you mentioned there :
http://eurobabo.forumieren.eu/squad-section-f83/rules-t579.htm

Push gotta talk with you on MSN so you can explain me everything 'bout this ELO.
I'll just understand the way it works and i'll update rules.

BTW : If someone's willing to be helping with such stuffs there's no problem, just ask me wiith PMs and i'll tell An to add you on the Ladder Team
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Re: Poll : ELO System

Post by Cyber on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:48 am

Okay going to turn it to a full ELO system as soon as someone play.
Standings will be fully resetted and re started with ELO method.
We've the calculator and everything else just show me someone is interested on playing this.
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Re: Poll : ELO System

Post by Pushkin on Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:01 pm

why restart, just continue the same way as before, ive calculated the ELOs for you this far Wink

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Re: Poll : ELO System

Post by Cyber on Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:35 am

Well, then it's ok.
As soon as someone play i'll update rules within' standings.
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