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Post by Cyber on Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:55 am

The old ELO Calculator's domine has been closed nowadays so i'm looking for an alternative sites which offers ELO calculators.
Otherwise, i waited like half a day before to post this but looks like the domine is totally closed, ladder won't be updated until we don't find an another calculator.
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by dizzy on Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:35 am

shit !!!

maybe someone can make new ELO calculator If this possible or we can look for new ELO calculator
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Cyber on Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:45 am

Yea this is going to be fixed as soon as possible.
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Cinc on Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:17 am

The old one was from a chess site right?

EDIT: Found a chess elo calculator. I need to check if it works but looks ok.
Link: http://www.brothersoft.com/chess-calculator-for-fide-206339.html
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by dad0 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:01 am

Cyber wrote:The old ELO Calculator's domine has been closed nowadays so i'm looking for an alternative sites which offers ELO calculators.
Otherwise, i waited like half a day before to post this but looks like the domine is totally closed, ladder won't be updated until we don't find an another calculator.
>The old ELO Calculator's domine
>Calculator's domine
>domine

U mean domain amirite?

Anyways i found this shit.
http://www.kosteniuk.com/EloCalc/elo.php

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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Cyber on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:20 am

Okay guys thanks try to find the easiest one because cyb + math = troubles :>.
Or at least lend an hand to me.
Hope to hear from you as soon as possible so i can make it worfully again.
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Cyber on Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:50 am

Probably the ELO Calculator has been found gimme one day to test if it's workfull and i'll fully update the ladder, there are like 3 matches which were played on 22 / 11 so i guess i'll follow the order of posting.

Upadate : The Elo Calculators i've found are not working as i would appreciate, i guess if you guys want the ladder to go on you might lend me an hand finding something workfully.
Tomorrow i'll try to run a related PHP Class on a local server, i'll let you know if this works.
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Sasha on Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:26 am

We can always fabricate one =) But I don't see any good reason to use the chess-Elo algorithm. It has some constants and variables chess only related .
MSN me, Cyb.
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by cnikshutupforonceXD on Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:04 am

Guess we'll all have to move from babo to chess then.
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Cyber on Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:45 am

Elo is not used only on chess ranking it has been used in many kinds of ladders, anyway yea i'll msn you i found some PHP Classes about it.
I'll open a Ladder Site but this will take a bit since i've much study, now i just have to find one calculator to keep it going cuz otherwise there'll be much confusion with the new posted matches.
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Sasha on Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:49 am

Does this work for you ?
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Cyber on Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:56 am

Not really i write the points of the interested clans but well in Match result i just don't know what to put, there should be a check box to fill out to select who has won
The calculator needs both the points of clans + an info about who won.
Might this is me which is using it wrong but well scratch
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Sasha on Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:07 am

If you play around with it you will notice it doesn't matter what were the scores.
Just put 1 for the winner and 0 for the loser

Upd: put 2 and 1. Chess players can't score less then 1 =)
Upd2: normally Elo includes scores in the calculation formula. Seems like something is wrong in the initial count. But if it satisfies you as is - we are good.
Upd3: Simple enough ? =)


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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by memento on Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:20 am

I dont know much about this ELO, but ... cant you just take it's formulas, put it in a software ( Excel, etc ) and make ur own calculator ?
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Sasha on Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:23 am

I've just used the etc variant from your suggestion, mem.
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Cyber on Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:46 am

Doesn't work as the other one did.
When both clans had 1000 points one went up to 1019 and one down to 981 and your script gives like a +60 :_:
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Sasha on Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:11 am

Yep, this is what I was afraid of.
Ok, I'll think of something today.
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Cyber on Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:27 am

Thanks for helping Sasha.
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Sasha on Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:17 pm

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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Cinc on Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:49 am

Cyb, here you go! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Program made by me, Babo Ladder Rankings Calculator:
megaupload.com 2Z4LFANM

You'll see that it's easy to use, if you want the source code i'll post it later.

EDIT: I tested it couple of times and i couldn't find any errors, but if you happen to find one just tell me where it occurred and I'll fix it.
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Gerry on Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:18 am

Cinc wrote:Cyb, here you go! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Program made by me, Babo Ladder Rankings Calculator:
megaupload.com 2Z4LFANM

You'll see that it's easy to use, if you want the source code i'll post it later.

EDIT: I tested it couple of times and i couldn't find any errors, but if you happen to find one just tell me where it occurred and I'll fix it.

i made one too... based on elo for chess with some add-on...

xD and today i "waste" 2 hours here:
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/trueskill/details.aspx


Razz Razz
trying to understand the way they do the rank... study it's quite cool, in the end is not rly difficoult... but it doesnt rly fit to babo imo, ofc we can try.

There's online version of the program that can be used to babo (if we change some parameters), link is here:
http://atom.research.microsoft.com/trueskill/rankcalculator.aspx

@ Cinc: i want the code Very Happy
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Cyber on Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:08 am

Cinc wrote:Cyb, here you go! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Program made by me, Babo Ladder Rankings Calculator:
megaupload.com 2Z4LFANM

You'll see that it's easy to use, if you want the source code i'll post it later.

EDIT: I tested it couple of times and i couldn't find any errors, but if you happen to find one just tell me where it occurred and I'll fix it.

Thanks cinc i'll try this out, if you'd like to help ladder team you're welcome.
Anyway this looks like some VB fudge xD , but not sure.

P.S Today i'm out but i guess tomorrow i'll find a couple of hours to work on this and update every stuff.
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Cinc on Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:37 pm

Yea i made it in VB because it was easy to do (took me about an hour), btw I've recalculated all the rankings, I can send you the rankings file if you don't want to calculate it all again.
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Cyber on Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:19 pm

That'd be great, you're my new Personal Jesus
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Re: Problem with ELO Calculator : Looking for solutions

Post by Cyber on Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:03 am

COuld you stop posting matches for the moment ?
we're recalculating it and adding new matches.
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